Dead Man: Loic is back and in fighting mode, says he's not the only one who died



Did you expect the man to take all this abuse in dignified silence ?  More Nicolas Sarkozy than Jacques Chirac, he is back in fine "racaille" fighting form after having died a small death (French only on Necronews).  At first we saw him dealing with the Sam Sethi sideshow whilst the Geeknorati was expecting with bated breath "LePost" about leWeb3.  So here it is; welcome back !

LePost has landed, with two key points being made by Loic:

  • The background is that we in Europe are fighting a battle to raise
    interest about the Internet and its deeper changes to society. We do
    not yet have the Silicon Valley ecosystem, but opening an exchange with
    our politicians is a start. We need to talk to them and they need to
    understand us.
  • I must now admit that the reactions in the blogosphere convinces me
    blogging conferences are dead. The tools we developed have entered the
    mainstream and we must embrace that. Artists, academics, politicians
    and so many others have joined the ranks of bloggers and web
    entrepreneurs in recognizing the power of social software. We must
    bring them into our conversation.

It is the longest post I have ever witnessed, with real depth and detailed explanations for those passionate about this debate or with a longer attention span than I.

I stand by my initial assesment, i.e. that (a) a "faux pas" in re-jigging the programme is no reason to lynch someone who organises this (as a non-for-profit, mind you) and that (b) I do believe this is a sign of the blogging chasm being crossed.  Blogging is growing up, it is getting hijacked, so much the better !

PS: I am still waiting for Clavier to re-emerge…  he must have something really big cooking in that basement.

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9 Responses to Dead Man: Loic is back and in fighting mode, says he's not the only one who died

  1. Thank you Fred. Pleasure to have got to known each other better through this, pleasure to have had you as a partner and pleasure to see your support. Two words: thank you.

  2. Fred Destin says:

    Loic, you better watch it. People are going to start thinking I did not pay for my ticket :-)

  3. Loic is a force for good in France and Europe…

  4. Realist says:

    “Every country has a government it deserves” Please guys, let’s stop with this bs about talking to politicians to understand you. If there are enough voters to care about this stuff, politicians will naturally start caring. Otherwise just forget about it – that’s the same way it works everywhere in the world.

  5. Fred, you are right about the achievement this conference represents for the European space. There is feedback to be taken from what happened if one is serious about getting something good going for Europe in terms of ecosystem. Loïc bashing was not a good idea as I said many times. Equally poor idea would be to dismiss all criticism out of hand without thoughtful consideration of what useful feedback is contained in it.
    And by the way, Realist has a point IMHO.

  6. Ivan Pope says:

    Well, yes. For sure, bringing politicians to the table is a good thing. Just not sure this is the way to do it.
    Loic’s second point above though doesn’t really stand scrutiny. He says blogging conferences are dead, as if all the negative response to Le Web came from some strange subset of the internet. Whereas I’d say that blogging has come of age, it’s a conversation carried on by exactly the broader community set out in the comment. Personally, I’ve never been to a blogging conference in my life, not Le Blogs or any other. I don’t think of myself as a blogger, but as an entrepreneur. I thought the event somewhat lacking, and blogged it. It’s what we do – it’s a conversation.

    Loic says ‘The tools we developed have entered the mainstream and we must embrace that. …many others have joined the ranks of bloggers and web entrepreneurs in recognizing the power of social software. We must bring them into our conversation.’ What Loic fails to recognise is that there is a conversation going on that is rightly separate from his world and that it’s a conversation to be joined or engaged with, not to be ‘brought in’ to whatever he think’s ‘our conversation’ is. You can’t have it both ways.

  7. Haven’t we all guessed that Loic is going to shill for Sarko full time? I completely support the move, but do we need a hammer upside the head to figure this one out? BTW, if you really need the hammer, see Rodrigo’s blog, he’s completely set it up for Loic to exit SixApart.

  8. P.S. seeing Clavier tonight, will report all.

  9. Jeff Clavier says:

    Hey, I did post about Le Web 3! Let’s catch up in the New Year and I’ll tell you what I am cooking in the basement.